That is all. Thanks.
not sure they even apply and if they did it would be the automatic one or the other thing, saddle to 0 or bars to 80 but not both
this is of no help, but point was morph exp no longer exist
need to add it is collegiate, so no aerobars either
rules are all up on USAC event webpage
**EQUIPMENT REGULATIONS **
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Bicycles used in all events must conform to the current UCI and USAC regulations for mass-start legal bicycles.
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No handlebar extensions, including “aero bars,” or other forms of bars offering forearm support, shall be allowed.
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Wheels used in all events must conform to UCI mass-start legal regulations. The UCI maintains a website with the information of approved wheels. Generally, this means that all wheels must have at least 16 spokes, each spoke must be no more than 2.4mm thick in any dimension, and the rim must be no more than 25mm deep. A list of wheels that can be excepted from those requirements can be found here: http://bit.ly/xKItaW.
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Geez who has wheels less than 25 mm deep anymore
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Geez who has wheels less than 25 mm deep anymore
haha…when the rules to make things cheaper make it more expensive
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long list of approved wheels, felt ttr’s are not on there however
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Where did you come up with these rules?
There are essentially two races, non-drafting and draft-legal. For the non-drafting race, the standard USAT rules apply. For the Draft-Legal, the rules are listed on the website but are essentially the UCI type rules for a mass start race.
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Dave is asking about bike racing
Where did you come up with these rules?
There are essentially two races, non-drafting and draft-legal. For the non-drafting race, the standard USAT rules apply. For the Draft-Legal, the rules are listed on the website but are essentially the UCI type rules for a mass start race.
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oops; being that (Triathlon) Collegiate Nationals begin tomorrow, my mind read that into the question.
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I read that as USAC, as he mentioned TT bikes and morph exemptions. Those terms do not usually apply to USAT
yeah, no TT/tri bikes at collegiate nats.
The rules are from Chapter 6 in the USAC rulebook. Having been at the recent W&M Road Race, I saw plenty of wheels deeper that 25mm. I’m also surprised that the TT doesn’t more closely follow USAC TT rules.
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if you look at the pseudo link I attached in the rules, and go to the usac website and click o actual link there, there are a boatload of wheels you can use deeper than 25, ranging from madfiber to hed to zipp, etc
if deeper than 25, it has to be on the approved list
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The rules are from Chapter 6 in the USAC rulebook. Having been at the recent W&M Road Race, I saw plenty of wheels deeper that 25mm. I’m also surprised that the TT doesn’t more closely follow USAC TT rules.
Basically they are saying if it’s a basic extruded box rim, it’s automatically “safe”. IF one of them new fangled carbon rims, then it needs to have gone through some additional testing and approvals. I think there were some issues or concerns about early carbon rims failing.
Probably a misguided belief based on typical fear of change among the cycling world. If it gives someone and short term unfair advantage and it’s expensive, it’s much be unsafe and therefore banned. All innovation and technology shall be crushed. The sad thing is that cycling isn’t any cheaper really than triathlon which allows almost unlimited innovation. The technology trickles down into mid range and lower priced product lines eventually and you get 95% of the performance for 1/2 the price.
Sadly no flo though. I’m betting one could get away with it though.
Anyone? ME’s for the TT at Collegiate Nats?
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the website for nats says it is uci regs, which means ME doesnt exist. you get either 5/80 or 0/75. but seeing as it is road bikes only…what is the point?
also, when you email teh contacts, you generaly get quick responses. if you had done that when you started te thread, you would not still be asking 
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the website for nats says it is uci regs, which means ME doesnt exist. you get either 5/80 or 0/75. but seeing as it is road bikes only…what is the point?
also, when you email teh contacts, you generaly get quick responses. if you had done that when you started te thread, you would not still be asking
I have two addition details to consider.
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Previously the length measurement was to the pivot point of your shifters. Now the measurement is to the furthest point forward. In my case, my position used to be legal (about 79cm), now it’s illegal as the shifters are nearly 4cm long.
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There is a new measurement that I hadn’t heard of, but is being enforced at Redlands, so I assume it will be universal. The top of your TT bars must be no more than 10cm above or below your pads. Top of the TT bars is defined by having the shifters to their highest position. This picture should explain what I’m trying to write.
https://twitter.com/CPbike/status/451506556589187072/photo/1
For the length issue it’s like they are promoting Di2. My newly illegal position would be perfectly legal if I installed Di2. Another option might be to install R2C shifters and point them down or something like that. Either way it seems kind of stupid.
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Anyone? ME’s for the TT at Collegiate Nats?
For college nationals, there is no individual TT. There is only a Team TT. Those are done on road bikes and you can use aero wheels, helmets, but not disc wheels. The ME rules are not going to be checked for road bikes. If they for some reason were as long as the saddle is not in front of the BB then you won’t have a problem.
I’ve been coaching some collegiate cyclists over the last several years and they have never been checked. If you have someone doing track races they do allow pursuit bikes and those are subject to the jig.
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photos from last year here:
and here:
all sorts of wheels being used. All road bikes though
yes, on your points but not relevant to DL’s questions as extensions not allowed.
i have to change saddles, which i am considering one i have not tried before and that would mean having to move my extensions back 0.5cm to be in compliance should i do a TT requiring compliance.
whay not promote more costly options, wasnt that the UCI’s whole point???
I’m looking here and seeing individual tts as well. So no MEs for this? I will contact someone within USAC if needed, but was just asking for a friend and hoping for a quick and clear response.
https://www.usacycling.org/myusac/include/cms/schedule/index.php?mode=view&permit=2014-3